vocabulary set but for grammar
under review
Shannon Quinn
so... this idea might not be popular with every type of language teaching approach, but...
it might be nice to have something that is like a vocabulary set, but is focused on grammar.
here's what i mean:
in Russian one major challenge is case endings. i would have a "grammar set" (or whatever it would be called - maybe we should avoid the word grammar just because some people go crazy about that, but i like the word grammar fine...would have to think what to call it) that would have something like, sentences that would ask students to identify the right ending.
or: verb conjugations. you could have a sentence with the infinitive of the verb and the student would have to choose the right verb form.
obviously this could be done in the regular module but it might be nice to have a bunch in a row and with the repetition in quick succession like the vocabulary set does. i guess one difference from the vocab set would be that the same ones wouldn't repeat, but similar ones would.
Seth Killian
I think so. We'll essentially need a list of topics or "skills" and then build up a question bank for each skill.
Shannon Quinn
yes, that would be nice if it can work! i guess that would require some kind of categories for items, right?
Seth Killian
I think that one of the places that these "grammar sets" could be useful is if we could use A.I to determine the reason behind the learner's mistake. In a lot of cases learners tends to make the same or similar mistakes and over time we could use machine learning so if they use an improper conjugation, tense, pronoun, agreement, etc, it can be brought to their attention. Then we can also look at common errors and give feedback to instructors and identify where more practice would be useful.
Shannon Quinn
thanks for contributing your ideas, Erica! i think what you are describing could be done with the "activities", especially if H5P activities can be integrated. i wasn't imagining anything with explanations, i was thinking that that would occur in the activities area instead, but (at least what i was envisioning) would be similar to the vocabulary set in that it would be a series of examples that would go by quickly in order to reinforce a grammar point that had been introduced earlier. but i think the structure that you talk about is great for introducing new topics! another idea that you brought up for me though is that it might be really nice to have a link of some kind to a vocabulary or grammar set at the end of an activity so that people could go directly to a quick-fire practice session.
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Erica De Sousa
Just wanted to add my thoughts to this. I also think this could be helpful. I definitely think it would be nice to have "grammar sets" (again, what to call them?) that serve the same purpose as the vocabulary sets. That is, to get the learner exposed to new structures, hear them, and see them in a sentence.
I think even in more "communicative" approaches, there's nothing wrong with that. In my opinion, it is helpful to get that initial exposure, and some learners really like to see "how it works" when it comes to grammar. The true acquisition takes place through meaning-based activities, but having a bank of more explicit grammar instruction may be a nice reference for learners (and instructors) as well.
Perhaps a set could include something like:
a quick explanation
audio/examples showing the structures in a sentence
a quick "now you try" practice at the bottom.
In the activities I plan to create, implicit grammar "practice" will be built in, and we'll also have some slightly more explicit grammar-focused activities as well. I think having some grammar sets plus some grammar-focused meaning-based activities would be the perfect combination (which is the approach we are taking with vocabulary).
Seth Killian
I think that there are definitely cases where explicit repetition could be useful. Originally, the idea for Lingco was that we had 520 grammar "skills" that an instructor could pick from and each skill had a database of ~30 questions which were fill in the blank and multiple choice. A lot of students found the repetition useful, specifically with verb conjugations.While it may not be popular in every school of thought, there is irrefutable evidence that in certain cases, repetition is useful.The reason why I think that this could be useful and a successful feature in Lingco is that it's not forcing instructors to use it. By having it opt-in, I don't see how there would be an issue. Just like how if instructors don't want to use vocabulary sets but prefer activities, that's certainly an option.